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		<title>The Drain Cleaner Found Roots In Your Sewer Line</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 19:26:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Redwood</dc:creator>
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The drain cleaner has found roots in your sewer line and you have been given the bad news The plumber told you the only way to get rid of the roots is to replace the sewer line. That is true, however, depending on the condition of your line and how many roots are coming into [...]]]></description>
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The drain cleaner has found roots in your sewer line and you have been given the bad news The plumber told you the only way to get rid of the roots is to replace the sewer line. That is true, however, depending on the condition of your line and how many roots are coming into it there may be an alternative treatment that can buy you some time. Roots in a sewer are most often caused by a leaking joint in the line. These joints typically have a hub which fits over the pipe and is sealed with lead and oakum on cast iron pipes and cement on vitrified clay pipes. Clay is much more susceptible to leakage and root intrusion. These joints leak a small amount of waste water into the soil which attracts the roots. The roots then grow fine roots in through the leaking joint. They then grow larger and with the same force that can raise a side walk they can eventually break the pipe. They also branch off and grow larger into the sewer eventually causing a blockage. This is what brought you the bad news.</p>
<p>In a sewer which has large roots at every joint or broken joints it is often best to replace the line, especially if the cleanings are required frequently like yearly or every couple of years. On sewer lines that that have small amounts of root intrusion into the line and drain cleanings are less frequently required there is an alternative. A yearly application of Root-X into the line can kill the roots entering the pipe before they grow large enough to break the pipe and damage it. It then will take a year before the grown of new roots can intrude into the pipe sufficiently to cause a concern and require a reapplication of Root-X.<a href="http://411plumb.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Root-X.jpg"><img class="size-full wp-image-2392 alignright" title="Root X" src="http://411plumb.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Root-X.jpg" alt="" width="153" height="131" /></a></p>
<p>Root-X is a two part foaming chemical containing the aquatic herbicide Dichlobenil. The two parts ar mixed together immediately before application and foam up in contact with water. The foam completely fills the pipe and comes in contact with roots even at the top of the pipe. Root-X will only kill the roots that have entered the pipe and will not hurt the tree. Root-X treatment dosages are 2 lbs. for 4&#8243; pipe up to 50&#8242; in length and 4 lbs. for a 4&#8243; pipe up to 100&#8242; in length. The Root-X foam must remain in contact with the roots for 4 &#8211; 6 hours to be effective and will wash away with water usage.<a href="http://411plumb.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Root-X-results.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-2393" title="Root X results" src="http://411plumb.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Root-X-results.jpg" alt="" width="247" height="87" /></a></p>
<p>The best time of year to apply Root-X is naturally in the seasons where the tree is active. It is also best to apply it within one hour of the roots being snaked from the line. After the golden hour the tree forms a protective coating on the cut root to treat the injury to the root. It is best then to wait 6 &#8211; 8 weeks for the protective coating to disapate before applying the Root-X treatment. Follow up with additional Root-X treatments on a yearly basis to help retard further root intrusions into the line. This treatment may postpone replacement of the sewer line. Ask your plumbing professional for Root-X.</p>
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		<title>Sewer Line Relining</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 25 May 2009 18:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Redwood</dc:creator>
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There is a &#8220;Trenchless&#8221; process that can involve no digging at all to replace a sewer line. This involves &#8220;shooting&#8221; a fiberglass lining into an existing sewer line creating a new pipe within the old deteriorating pipe. The process may be comparable in cost to excavation and may actually be a savings if you [...]]]></description>
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There is a &#8220;Trenchless&#8221; process that can involve no digging at all to replace a sewer line. This involves &#8220;shooting&#8221; a fiberglass lining into an existing sewer line creating a new pipe within the old deteriorating pipe. The process may be comparable in cost to excavation and may actually be a savings if you look at the cost of repairing the collateral damage to landscaping and the cost of a street opening.</p>
<p>Before a sewer line can be relined it must be cleaned &amp; inspected with a video camera to perform a sewer inspection and  determine that it is in fact a viable candidate for relining. The line must have proper pitch maintained without any bellies, or misaligned joints. The liner follows the contour &amp; path of the original line and will not correct these defects.  The line may have small breaks where pieces of the pipe have broken or fallen out exposing soil but the pipe must maintain it&#8217;s original shape and not be collapsing yet. Very short and shallow belly, or, small misalignment may be of no consequence but that is best determined by the experience of the relining contractor as this is a judgment call.</p>
<p>The lining may be shot through any opening in the pipe that that allows good access for the liner to reach the problem area. The liner may even be shot into the line via a cleanout. Cutting into the pipe may also be done. Best access will be determined again by the relining contractor.</p>
<p>The relining material is essentially a woven fiberglass hose with a thin plastic</p>
<p>film on the outside. A calculated amount of fiberglass resin and hardener is mixed then poured inside the liner. the contractor then makes sure that the entire length of the woven fiberglass is fully &#8220;wet&#8221; with the mixed resin.  The liner is then shot into the the sewer line using a gun that inverts the liner so the resin coated weave ends up on the outside where it bonds to the old pipe and the thin plastic film becomes the slick inside surface of the new pipe. The gun uses compressed air to propel the liner into the pipe and the whole process is very similar to turning a sock inside out.</p>
<p>A calibration tube similar to a balloon is also shot inside the liner which is then pressurized with either compressed air or water heated by a portable boiler. The pressurized calibration tube holds the fiberglass liner out against the existing sewer line until the fiberglass liner cures into a hard new fiberglass one piece pipe within the old pipe. Using the hot water method speeds the curing process. Once the line has cured the calibration tube is removed.</p>
<p>If there are any tie-ins that need to be reestablished a small device with a</p>
<p>cutting burr is inserted into the pipe to cut out openings allowing flows from the other line to flow into the newly relined pipe. At this point the work on the line is done, a quick video inspection to check the line,  and the relined sewer is ready for use.</p>
<p><a href="http://411plumb.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Relined-Sewer-Pipe.jpg"><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-2389" title="Relined Sewer Pipe" src="http://411plumb.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/Relined-Sewer-Pipe.jpg" alt="" width="164" height="158" /></a>While the relining process sounds very easy in this description I assure you that what I have written is an oversimplification. The sewer line must be cleaned very well prior to relining, and the process requires a careful choreography that even highly experienced crews stop to talk about just before the resin is mixed. The job has a very high pucker factor that comes in as soon as the hardener is added to the resin. At that point the clock is ticking with a count down to the time at which the resin used to impregnate the liner hardens. If the liner hardens before you have completed pressurizing the balloon line you are in trouble.</p>
<p>There are a few different relining processes from different manufacturers used. This article is intended as an overview of the process and is not a full description of every different manufacturers process.</p>
<p>I hope this article gives you a good understanding of the sewer line relining process, the steps involved in the relining process, and the limitations of the relining process.  The net result is a new one piece pipe within the old pipe that does not leak and is impervious to root intrusion.</p>
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		<title>Sewer Line Requires Repair or, Replacement?</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 13:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Redwood</dc:creator>
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Many home owners have been given this bad news. You aren&#8217;t the first and you won&#8217;t be the last. Often there is warning as in the line that clogs up frequently every couple of years, and has huge amounts of roots cut out of it. Or, you have been told of having a belly [...]]]></description>
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Many home owners have been given this bad news. You aren&#8217;t the first and you won&#8217;t be the last. Often there is warning as in the line that clogs up frequently every couple of years, and has huge amounts of roots cut out of it. Or, you have been told of having a belly (sag), or, misaligned joint in the line.</p>
<p>The responsibility of repairing your sewer lateral (the line from your house to the city line in the street) varies in different areas. In most locations by my experience the city&#8217;s responsibility is limited to the line running down the middle of the street. However, I have seen some places where they cover to the curb, sidewalk, or the edge of the street right of way. A check with your local authorities is a good idea to see what they cover. Some places also offer assistance if you have low income. It pays to get all the information you can from them. You at least need to know where your responsibilities end.</p>
<p>The first step is to have the line cleared if possible with a snake or, a jetter if needed. Then have the line video inspected to determine the full extent of the problems with the line.  I would strongly recommend that you are present and witness the video inspection. Ask questions if you don&#8217;t understand what you are seeing. The line should be round, dry, joints should be smooth, and all turns should sweep nicely. It should look like a water fun ride at an amusement park. There is really not much to it and you should know when there is something wrong. It is a matter of what you see is what you got. You will know when something is wrong. You may not know what it is but you will know it&#8217;s not right. The camera operator should be able to explain what is wrong and the explanation should make sense.</p>
<p>Now the nitty gritty details. Cameras for sewer inspections are expensive pieces of equipment used in a harsh environment and the person operating that camera usually has considerable experience in the field. After the drain-cleaner experienced problems cleaning your line the camera may have been offered free. Nothing is free! Them using the camera had an expected pay off of doing the repair work. They cannot be expected to provide you with enough details on the problem to supply enough information to allow a competitor to bid on the job. Recouping the cost of the camera inspection will be built into the price of the job, as I said, &#8220;Nothing is Free!&#8221;</p>
<p>Repairs or replacement of a sewer line is not inexpensive. It is a large job requiring, licensing, excavation equipment, safety equipment such as trench boxes, permits &amp; inspections, and sometime highly specialized knowledge and equipment. Costs vary widely in different ares but no matter where you live it is something that getting multiple bids on could save you thousands of dollars. much the same as shopping at several car dealerships before buying a car.</p>
<p>Another possibility is to pay for the camera inspection and get all the information a contractor would need to supply a bid on the job. Then make that information available to several contractors and solicit bids. You don&#8217;t have a lot of time on this your line will be failing again soon, so time is of the essence. To solicit bids you will need a full video recording of the line from your house to the city sewer line. Either a VHS video cassette, Mpeg file or DVD is used for this. My preference would be the Mpeg file or, DVD which I will explain in a minute. You will also need the location of the line marked both the physical location and the depth. From your house to the connection in the street. The camera has a secondary function as a transmitter for locating the line. All changes in direction should be marked as well along with some intermediate points on long straight runs. Marking should be done with flags, and or, paint on grass and dirt surfaces, and paint on pavement and sidewalks. If flags only are used for marking on the lawn great care should be taken that they are not moved or, removed.</p>
<p>So many people and companies have entered the electronic age that you may be able to submit the video converted to an Mpeg file, along with photo files saved as a Jpeg files, via E-Mail to several companies soliciting bids for the work. The photos should show the work area and all things near the line that may affect the excavation work. Sidewalks, driveways, HVAC units on a slab, trees, shrubs, patio&#8217;s, retaining walls, fences, and sheds are just a few of the obstacles commonly encountered.  A written description of the the line depth along the way and any other pertinent details should be included. This will give them enough information ahead of time that they should have the proposal pretty well worked up then come out for a site visit to recheck the information provided and see if anything needs changing before giving you their bid. This can save everybody involved a considerable amount of time.</p>
<p>You may expect bids to come back often with several options ranging from a spot repair, to excavation and line replacement, pipe bursting and pipe relining. You may also expect methods proposed by different companies to be different. You will have to sift through these proposals and bid prices to decide which is best for you then give the go ahead to the winning bid.</p>
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